Talk:Ice Giant/@comment-5067079-20131228120833/@comment-24280309-20131228225531

The drop rates are pretty brutal. I've only gotten a few Wooden Clubs and Guns. No Catapults.

Finding players who want to win has also been problematic. When I join in, I usually post a fair amount of damage. To show in serious in defeating the giant. Often players seem to have forgotten the fight, and their point totals never change. I do not mind spending € in order to receive presents ( I even got some good stuff for 2nd), but I cannot account for 4000 points.